Marvin Shilmer

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  Anthony Morris explains how God gives Decrees to man! New video edit.

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i took the most recent video on "obey" and edited it down to its core.

  here tony explains that the decisions of the faithful slave are arrived at "collectively" but are not a "collection" of man made decisions.

  it would be comical if it weren't so sad.. tony video.

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  I think you captured it!
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  Ages, Generations... Different island same Sh_t

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today i added a new article to my blog.

  it includes a not-yogi berra quote in memory of a beloved man.

  oh, and it includes a two image depiction of how watchtower has but hasn't changed.

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  Today I added a new article to my blog. It includes a not-Yogi Berra quote in memory of a beloved man. Oh, and it includes a two image depiction of how Watchtower has but hasn't changed.
  

  See: Age and Ages, and Half of Generations

  See yous at the ballpark!
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  New Trey Bundy Article Discusses "Theocratic Warfare"

  by HomebytheSea in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.revealnews.org/article/jehovahs-witnesses-can-hide-the-truth-in-court-to-protect-religion/.

  another great article by trey.

  hope it gets a lot of publicity!

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  I don't know how anyone with decent knowledge of Watchtower's inner workings could possibly believe Mr. Toole's testimony claiming ignorance of Watchtower's theocratic war strategy doctrine! The man worked for Watchtower's Service Department for nearly 10 years in a high capacity and during that very period Watchtower admits in written correspondence that the doctrine was then not only valid but currently practiced!!! Of course, the same letter exclaimed that Watchtower did not want this particular doctrine to become a subject of general discussion among "the brothers".

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  For those of you that are disfellowshipped, How Far Would Your Faithfull JW Family Go To Stay Loyal to The WT?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ive seen jw parents shun their disfellowshipped children for 20-30 years.

  ive seen parents remove disfellowshipped or fader children from wills and give the inheritance to the watchtower..

  if your country got run over by some form of government like the nazi regime and started a process of eliminating any groups or individuals who it considered a threat.

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  There are members of my family who I think would be willing to stone a person to death if Watchtower doctrine dictated it and it were legal to do so. And, why wouldn't there be? Religiously inspired capital punishment has a long-held tradition among humankind, and in some societies is practiced to this day.
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  Does anyone pray and if so to who?

  by duc007az in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's been years since i've prayed and the last one i prayed to was the god known as jehovah.

  just wondering.

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  Recently I saw a cartoon of a little boy riding a bicycle. The little boy exclaimed, "I thought about asking in prayer for a bicycle but realized God didn't work that way. So I stole this one and asked God for forgiveness, in prayer of course."

  Like so much else, knowing how the system works is often the ticket to getting there.
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  Need Help with Blood Transfusion Illustration

  by Dissonant15 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  please, who can provide an intelligent rebuttal to the following illustration?

  i always thought it was bullet-proof:.

  "if your doctor directs you to 'abstain from alcohol' would you be ok to have it injected into your veins rather than drink it?

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  If your doctor directs you to 'abstain from alcohol' would you be OK to have it injected into your veins rather than drink it?

  If a religious doctrine would have us abstain from transfusion of fresh frozen plasma would it be OK to let cryosupernatant and cryoprecipitate be injected into our veins?
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  Need Help with Blood Transfusion Illustration

  by Dissonant15 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  please, who can provide an intelligent rebuttal to the following illustration?

  i always thought it was bullet-proof:.

  "if your doctor directs you to 'abstain from alcohol' would you be ok to have it injected into your veins rather than drink it?

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  Actually, the blood/alcohol analogy is correct as far as consuming any substance by needle or by mouth.

  That's just plain ole stupid.

  Here's a substance: potable water

  If you drink potable water it hydrates your tissue, which is a good thing. If you transfuse potable water it kills you, which is a bad thing.

  Here's another substance: alcohol

  Doctors who've advised a patient to abstain from alcohol do not abstaining from transfusing alcohol to the same patient if the administration protects the patient from death.
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  Need Help with Blood Transfusion Illustration

  by Dissonant15 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  please, who can provide an intelligent rebuttal to the following illustration?

  i always thought it was bullet-proof:.

  "if your doctor directs you to 'abstain from alcohol' would you be ok to have it injected into your veins rather than drink it?

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  If your doctor directs you to 'abstain from alcohol' would you be OK to have it injected into your veins rather than drink it?

  Yes. It would.

  A doctor tells a patient to abstain from alcohol if the patient's use of alcohol is bad for his health. But if the same patient shows up at an emergency room with ethyl glycol poisoning he'll likely have alcohol administered to counteract the deadly effect. In each case (i.e., abstention and administration) the reason is the same: best interest of the patient.
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  Why isn't demon possession a DF offense?

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  let's review: it's a cult!.

  allrighty--got thinking about it in this thread.

  isn't it odd that, of all things, that isn't on the list of df offenses?

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  Marvin Shilmer

  Why not?

  Because then Watchtower would have to start with its own higher-ups. One actually confessed to being under "DEMONICAL CONTROL"

  Edited to add: He looked a little like that gal pictured above, too!
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  Today's Special Day Assembly Expenses and the $10,499 Deficit. Silent Majority?

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  today i attended a one-day assembly in my hometown.

  i knew when it came time to read the afternoon expenses that it would be an incredibly high and ridiculous amount that was nowhere near the real expenses for that day.

  sure enough, after lunch came the announcement.

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  Expenses for these events are always phony. Usually the biggest "expense" occurs the result of elders voting to accept a recommended donation to Watchtower's World Wide Work fund. It's a scam.